I need to make things clear with you about Uinvest and HYIPs. Let’s start with an e-mail I got yesterday from Dave Darrell, head of Uinvest support team :
- From me, after asking to share why the website was down live on privatehyipblog.com -
Thanks for taking the time to update us on the situation Dave. We all appreciate it.
Cordially,
Frank
- From Dave Darrell -
Frank,
I visit your blog often so it was my pleasure to post my thoughts. Yet I just read in your chat odd and funny conclusions, so I decided to email you
the following:
- You don’t risk any money writing about Uinvest, whatever you write your funds are safe
- We have never thought you’re behind attacks or anything bad.
- We have nothing against any questions about anything, we have 100% freedom of speech in our forum, in our chat, open offices and 24/7 phone support.
We just think that hyip industry is full of criminals, few of them were trying to bring us down, that’s it. We think that dealing with criminals one either be a part of them or have to be against them. Yesterday’s attack just proved this to us. Thus, we no longer will keep watching HYIPs scam people’s money and do nothing. We will act. We think this is the only possible for us point of view.
I was trying to post this in chat but could not log in and decided to write it to you. Feel free to quote me if you like.
With great respect,
Dave Darrell
Uinvest Support Team
Monday, an anonymous hacker shut down the Uinvest website with a powerful DDOS attack. Thanks to the reputable prolexic.com the servers went back online yesterday, right on time for the weekly management chat .
If you did not attend this chat, you need to know that Uinvest believe the attack comes from HYIP circles. Who else ? For instance, I know a lot of JSStripler and HYIP members decided to diversify their assets with Uinvest since 2010. What’s your opinion ? Do you believe that people will invest less in HYIPs or other popular programs like JSStripler because Uinvest is becoming more and more popular ?
According to Uinvest, some people behind the HYIP industry wants to bring them down. Is that relevant ? DDOS attacks are common and never killed any big programs as far as I can remember. Even my blog got attacked twice . One thing is for sure : someone wants to send a message when you’re hit by a DDOS attack.
Apart of that, Uinvest will start toblock any traffic coming from HYIP related resources. They also promised to file lawsuits against blackmailers. For example, Uinvest considers that haters are all over TalkGold.com, which stands as the most popular HYIP forum since years. The management of Uinvest told us on the chat that they will file lawsuits against people hurting the image of the company.
If you want to better understand my position, I decided to post a comment yesterday on TalkGold. Here it is :
Talkgold comment from me, page 86 of the Uinvest thread :
I’m the member 21 at Uinvest ( since August 2010) and my long-time readers know I have 2240$ invested currently.
At least don’t put all your eggs in the same basket in order to spread the risks involved. Basic advice for newbies.
It’s healthy for everyone to have such discussion going on concerning the proclaimed legetimacy of Uinvest. A lot of people want to believe Uinvest is for real and not just a very well organised ponzi scheme.
As of today, I personally don’t have the material / info that would convince me Uinvest has a legit business model. Of course I’m getting my payouts on time like every uinvestors. That’s not the point.
I don’t care about the legetimacy of the usual HYIPs simply because no one believe these HYIPs are legit. People know they invest in Ponzis. Why do I care to verify Uinvest? Because so many of my readers believe Uinvest is for real without being able to confirm with facts. Receiving a payment is not a fact, all good HYIP are doing that.
To conclude, I will buy more shares at Uinvest within the next month. I simply can’t find a better investment platform online. You know, we all want to verify that Uinvest is real so we can start investing good money in there instead of just a couple thousands $$$ . Until then, the investigation will continue. Keep us posted ! Should I remind to be careful about cheer-leaders as much as black-mailers ? I’m trying to be none of those and be as objective as I can. Tell me if I’m doing it all wrong.
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Frank
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You know … i never would’ve thought about hyip wars but if u think about it … there were a lot of DDOS attacks recently and all of them hit only good Hyips or other known money making programs (e.x. Uinvest like mentioned above, JBP, and MyBrowserCash(3Gbps ddos attack) yesterday) and as i believe that those programs had quite the protection and servers to handle the attacks yet still struggled with them means it was an intentional and organized and yet … the question remains who …
HELLO FRANC, MERCI POUR TOUTES VOS INFOS, C’EST VRAI QUE BEAUCOUP DE HYIPS SONT DES VOLEURS CRIMINELS… JE TRAVAILLE EN CE MOMENT AVEC UN HYIP QUI PAYE ” ROYALTY7 ” ET POUR MA PART J’AI FAIT UN ESSAI AVEC UINVEST, PAS DE SOUCI, PAYE. MAIS AU FAIT? DAVE DARELL N4EST PAS LE MENTOR DU FAMEUX CLUB ASTERIA QUI NE PAYE PAS ??? AMICALEMENT, BRUNO.
Overall I agree with Uinvests decision. But what was wrong in my opinion is that he blames the blogs and monitors responsible for it. Sure, maybe some of those crappy scam monitors / blogs are responsible, but not the only ones. You can not put all people involved in HYIPs into the same box. We are also often victims of attacks. For example my monitor and blog was down for two whole weeks due to a massive DDoS attack recently. It all depends on what you talk about on your website. As soon as you are attacking the wrong guys you will become the victim.
I’m still not convinced that Uinvest is a legitimate business. I feel that investing in definite ponzi is more fair then investing in something that tries to prove otherwise despite some obvious flaws in their legend ^^
I’m not saying that Uinvest won’t last long: their business model proved that it can provide a stable profit to it’s investors for longer period time than most other hyips.
I just want to point out on the case of Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC. This company seemed to be much more legitimate than Uinest with it’s owner being a chairman of NASDAQ stock market, but turned to be a pure ponzi scheme after all.
No investments in beer factories or whatever Uinvest has to offer can provide legitimate ROI of their size on a monthly basis, especially when we are talking about Ukraine. Ukraine still suffers aftermath of the global recession with the average salary of around $200-250/month.
Their move to terminate any associations with the HYIP industry is just a pure marketing move.
Yes, I would invest in them, as their recent activity will definitely bring many new folks who just love fairy tales and look for any good or not good enough reason to believe in Uinvest Holy Cash Cow’s legitimacy.
Nice said. If their model is legit – show some proof.
Till then there will be always huge mystery and suspicions all around, and uinvest should better work on proving their legitimacy then sending their uinvest Army on negative commentators, accusing people of blackmailing, treatining with lawsuits.
Uinvest was and still marketed to people in HYIP scene, i would say 90% of their investors came from HYIP sources. Declaring war on HYIP scene just might backfire.
Nik, we do our best to be open and understandable.
Blackmailing is a fact – I personally have this case documented because it was submitted to police. I have those emails, with all headers and IP addresses, therefore, we don’t suspect people, we have facts of committing a crime.
The same with websites that commit various crimes – we will be gathering information about suspicious activity we notice and we are sure it’s normal for all honest people who want this world to be better.
Therefore, Nik, uinvest army is nothing but a community of honest people, uinvestors, who don’t want to sponsor criminals. And we welcome everyone to join us.
Dave, Do you know the meaning of “Blackmailing”? Perhaps i do belive you might have some stupid ones demanding money of you.
I only heard of accusation of blackmailing on your part and never saw anyone demanding anything for criticizing.
I was accused of blackmailing by alot of your investors when i was sceptical
and i have reasons to belive that management of uinvest was a driving force behind those attacks on me.
If you scream “blackmail” what exactly they asked of you ?
Don get me wrong , You and I both know that whats your company doing (assuming its not just ponzi forefront) is illegal in Ukraine as well as in US (taking into account passed US JOBS act on which you hope to legalize your business). I’ll look forward talking to police, but you want to be under radar, dont you?
Nik,
Yes, I’m familiar with the meaning of ‘blackmailing’. For the last 5 years we were contacted by organized groups of people several times, they were initiating black PR actions in various forums and chats and asked us to pay from $1,000 to $20,000 to stop these attacks. We ignore such requests but such things happen regularly so we get used to them. We don’t ‘scream’ anything, we document each case and submit this to appropriate services.
Unfortunately, I’m not familiar with you, thus, I don’t know anything about you or your actions. I’m sorry to hear you were accused by uinvestors and I apologize if it was done by mistake. And I would like to learn more about reasons that make you believe that ‘management of uinvest was a driving force behind those attacks on you’.
Because you say that ‘I …. know that whats your company doing is illegal in Ukraine as well as in US’ kindly elaborate on it and explain your point to Frank’s readers and me. Thus I will be able to understand what part of our business seems unclear to you, I will explain, and you and people here will learn more about UInvest.
Thank you.
Ok, Dave.
Explain to everybody here how is that legal for your company to solicit US residents, collect investments,
produce fake (unregistered securities) , provide shady information on those investments
and not being authorized by SEC for such activities ?
Perhaps you need to switch your lawyers, cause you don’t clearly understand how it works in US,
you can be located on the moon but if you collect money of US residents you must be authorized for that
to be considered legal investment in US.
Do not count on SEC approving your “crowdfunding” outfit, I never heard of SEC granting anything to past violators. The only way it might work out for you if you start a new venture with no ties to the previous one.
Read the the JOBS act on crowdfunding so you understand you have nothing to count for.
While everybody patiently waits for SEC approval before taking money from a first investor.
Explain to everybody here how you do same thing in Ukraine where its not legal either, don’t try to hide behind some banks on whose behalf you kind of allowed to collect investments, thats just nonsense, they will just put money laundering scheme on top of what you doing in Ukraine if they cared.
Ukraine investigators would not even waste their time on some english-only site without complains from Ukraine citizens or official request from foreign investigation, also in Ukraine you claim to be US company.
Looking forward to your replies
Nik,
Thank you for your response. As I said it earlier, lack of understanding of UInvest concept doesn’t allow you to make right conclusions and your bad experience with criminals from hyip industry leaves you no chance to realize it.
It is good that you tell about this, but it is bad that you choose such a rough form, it doesn’t let you to look at things clearly. We at UInvest choose polite forms of communication just because of that.
Anyway. uinvest.com.ua is a platform where businesses meet uinvestors. Yes, we provide all means for depositing funds to their accounts, for making decisions, for communicating with each other etc. However, you should understand that UInvest does not produce any securities so we have nothing to register. UInvest makes users able to communicate with each other and if they decide to trade ‘shares’ – we’re fine with it.
Do you know a meaning of word ‘share’? This is clue #1 for you.
It is absolutely legal in all countries to provide such advanced informational board and charge fees for using it. Thus, we don’t break any laws anywhere, this is why we don’t hesitate to meet people in our offices, pay taxes – we’re registered legitimate business.
However, such business model has some limitations. For example, we would like to expand our business with more functions like collecting money on our accounts (which currently is not being done by us). This is why we established office in USA, Germany and Hong Kong to adjust our business model to the local laws. By the time of UIC2012 (UInvest Conference in Los Angeles this fall) the business model will be adjusted to comply with American law. Until then we do not run any business activity in the USA, neither do we (it’s obvious and can be checked by you) collect any money from US (or any other) customers.
I have no idea why you refer to “crowdfunding”. I believe this is what you were told by some educated folks. I would suggest you rather google for a ‘No-Action Letter from SEC’, that would be clue#2 for you.
In any case I will be happy to bring you more information here if you choose a polite form of communication.
Thank you!
Thats just funny how you saying money collected not by you, and that you are just exchange.
Are all involved parities licensed with SEC, who are you kidding?
Somebody just took money from investors and gave it to you,
you gave that money to some business which can never be verified, that business paid some percent on investment back to you, you took your fee, and gave money to someone other who in the end paid investor.
Sorry, its ridiculous to claim “we are just middle man”, information board , etc.
It is called soliciting US residents for illegal investments in US if you insist on middleman treatment.
Certificate of shares have uinvest ™ all over it so you saying they just meaningless paper, tell it to everybody then.
About clue#2, are you claiming you have No-Action letter from SEC, why would not you just share it with everybody, in any case “no action” means there is no active investigation and no complains and SEC doesn’t have to make a decision at this point (yes they busy and have other priorities),
its absolutely not a permit from a SEC to continue your activities.
i’ll keep those questions simple, and dont give me clues please, you should provide hard real information to your investors
Did you (or any affiliated partner of yours) take money or prevented any US residents from investing in your scheme during 2010-12?
Were you licensed by US SEC to conduct these activities in US in 2010-12?
Were you licensed by Ukraine financial commission to conduct these activities in 2010-12?
Thanks for your replies.
P.S.: For everyone who believes in legitimacy of Uinvest, consult with certified accountant
(thats what you should always do considering any foreign business investment). For the rest enjoy the ride while it lasts.
Deewhyann,
We have almost 20,000 people and most of them were just like you. Then they change their minds. Why? Because we respect everyone’s point of view, because we believe that those who think negative about us don’t have enough information about our business.
We are only a marketplace for business opportunities, UInvest is only needed to connect investors with business owners.
Where are you from? Do you have a business idea? Good news, UInvest can help you to start, http://www.gunproject.org/morecountries – contact nearest agent and he/she will help your business idea to get listed on UInvest and become ‘another fairy tale’
UInvestors will invest in your business, you, the business owner, will develop it and someone anonymous from the internet will call it all scam 
Cheers
Dave,
I really do appreciate your efforts in convincing me, but I do want to point out that I’m familiar with the following:
a) Fundamentals of Financial Analysis (I hold a degree in Business Administration)
b) Ukrainian current economical situation (I’m partly Ukrainian myself)
c) I’m also aware of what is an approximate average income of a successful enterprise percentage wise and what’s left of it after all means of taxation is applied.
I don’t want to get too deep and try to prove my point with figures as I don’t think it’s worth time spent on it, so I’m using my own, unproven, call of judgement based mostly on points listed above. Don’t get me wrong: you have a wonderful project, you are doing a great amount of work and I wish you longevity and prosperity, but I prefer to stay skeptical.
Cheers!
Deewhyann,
Thank you for your neat response. It’s always a pleasure to talk to gentle and intelligent people. And it’s a success to meet UInvest skeptics among them because with time they become the most loyal uinvestors
Proven fact!
Because you didn’t respond where you are from I can’t tell you for sure when it will happen. But I’m sure it will: when you come to UInvest website and notice your favorite restaurant listed there
Cheers!
wow, Dave, i just noticed my favorite VIP Hotel in Yalta shares of which i can buy.
the problem is that hotel is actually Золотой Тюльпан hotel located in Almaaty Kazahstan.
I agree with deewhyann. It just doesn’t seem realistic to me that beer factories,ski resorts etc give Uinvest sufficient ROI to pay back its investors and Uinvest itself… After all, Ukraine is, let’s be honest, one of the poorest countries in the EU in this present moment.
This could work if it was purely based in the US, but laws are far more strict over the pond.
Frank,
The fact that Dave Darrell at Uinvest contacted you shows some legitimacy.
I have HYIP investments now, making ” money ” but I can’t get it out, and support won’t talk to me ( Royal 7 ), so I think the fact that Dave contacted YOU, is a positive sign.
The returns on uinvest shares are only attractive if it is a legit investment, but without hard evidence the returns stink. Based on Dave’s responses you can see he is only beating around the bush and digging himself deeper. (I almost feel like I am in season 6 of LOST again)
first i will like to thank you dave for your effort to share with us about univest though, from the comments nick has made i think you should be frank enough to tell us if u really are a legit business or investment firm,
Instead of giving some shady proof
Trust me people are looking for a legitimate company or an investment company to invest in and its there prayer that one day one of this hyips will turn out to a true investment venture that they can count on
If you really are sure you are legalized show us evidence of share certificates that people receive after buying ur securities
Any of your companies that are listed in the ukranian security market or even
Get hosted by financial terms,get interviewed by bbc business analysts and cnn and then i will believe that i have iam secure in this mine full of gold to help eradicate poverty from africa and the world in general
Otherwise thumps up for the good work your doing in making sure people get their daily roi from what they invested in your company.
Hope am makin sense to you, i really want univest to be their indefinately but until you bring to us out the issues clearly from a financial point of view i doubt whether posts from your followers will make you legit neither will the ddos attack make you illegal if ur biz model is legitimate
What we need is material fact
Iam from africa one of the poorest continent if not the poorest of all i don’t think it will be morally right to take the few coins we change into dollars away from us cz thats what we use to buy our daily bread to feed our malnourished children, i have seen people lives change with the money from popular hyips especially jss tripler,
I just hope one day you will officially announce on the national television that your the investment bank of choice world wide.
And keep the smile on the investors like frank glow forever.
first i will like to thank you dave for your effort to share with us about univest though, from the comments nick has made i think you should be frank enough to tell us if u really are a legit business or investment firm,
Instead of giving some shady proof
Trust me people are looking for a legitimate company or an investment company to invest in and its there prayer that one day one of this hyips will turn out to a true investment venture that they can count on
If you really are sure you are legalized show us evidence of share certificates that people receive after buying ur securities
Any of your companies that are listed in the ukranian security market or even
Get hosted by financial terms,get interviewed by bbc business analysts and cnn and then i will believe that i have iam secure in this mine full of gold to help eradicate poverty from africa and the world in general
Otherwise thumps up for the good work your doing in making sure people get their daily roi from what they invested in your company.
Hope am makin sense to you, i really want univest to be their indefinately but until you bring to us out the issues clearly from a financial point of view i doubt whether posts from your followers will make you legit neither will the ddos attack make you illegal if ur biz model is legitimate
What we need is material fact
Iam from africa one of the poorest continent if not the poorest of all i don’t think it will be morally right to take the few coins we change into dollars away from us cz thats what we use to buy our daily bread to feed our malnourished children, i have seen people lives change with the money from popular hyips especially jss tripler,
I just hope one day you will officially announce on the national television that your the investment bank of choice world wide.
And keep the smile on the investors like frank glow forever.
Hi,
I have decided to come in this chat-comment.
I am CEO and co-owner of investment company and I am Uinvest GUN Agent.
I was sceptical with Uinvest, to be honest. But more important is that I am online marketer from 1994. Learning..learning….still learning,.. there are millions of scams online and there are millions of great opportunities.
Why are we sceptical? Because of our past experience. I was scammed many times, lost my money in HYIPs and MLM companies…but for last 5 years I am taking different approach to different opportunities.
I have bought only 1 share at first from Uinvest, the cheapest, 19 USD..jsut checking it,…dividends are payed every month in a second, three months I needed to check Uinvest, to learn..and then I bought another 2,…etc..
For me Uinvest is legit, I know the system; there are many other similar companies doing same.
I know what is biggest problem here, it is Ukrainian company. Most of my investors dont believe in project just because of that. So I become agent.
I have new project to add from my country. If it will be approved and I believe it will, I will buy share from company in my country. I know director, I know their work and I will help them achieve their dreams.
So what is here to not understand?
It is same as going on bank, you need the money, private investors invest in your company, you get the money, you make money, get back money as you would give it back to bank..Uinvest take commission. Affiliates get payed, agents get payed.
Investors get certificates and what is more important, investors can visit company or project they have invested in..
REAL PROJECTS.
I am getting payed every month, from dividends and from refferals. And support is fantastic, especially Dave
So people, it is up to you if you invest or not, that is your choice, that is your opinion and we have to appriciate for every comment.
And if you dont know, there is new project from Canada, soon from Malaysia, Germany, Slovenia, Italy….
Let the force be with you
theres is one serious problem, they have to be licensed in Ukraine for this activity.
And they have to be licensed in US if they take US residents as customers.
Till then there are no ground to treat it as legal investments.
Hey Guys question I’m posing an argument for if UInvest is legitimate where and how can we see the business licence and appropriate legal documents. since it is more essentially providing equity investments into small business, does it still have to be registered with SEC. Do we also get a legal note stating how much of the company we own? feel free to email me lclingwall @ gmai l . com. reference uinvest and frank so I dont accidentally junk it
Hi,
they are legal, and offshore company in Hong Kong have licence for investment worldwide. If you do online investments you have to have offshore company.
Most of biggest companies in the world have it..
Ofcourse there are countries who do not allow this kind of investment and there are issues with uinvest agents in some countries. But this is not our issue
But anyway it is better than HYIP, and I hope it will last for long time.
Making 4-digits monthly in USD is really nice investment
So I am happy to be one of members, now over 31 000 uinvestors
Ray
I am happy to be one of their investors, in fact I can’t imagine where they are heading to. Uinvest standout, they are not hyip I can say this without doubt, but don’t put all ur egg in one basket learn from others that was victim of circumstances……..
Joining Uinvest 13 month ago has been the best decision.
They never missed a single payment since then!
What I like most about Uinvest is the opportunity to trade shares with other users.
I even made more money by trading shares instead of waiting for the monthly dividend.
Buy low today, sell high tomorrow …
Check out my website in order to find underrated shares if you are still missing this opportunity.
http://www.citizenofworld.tk
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if you bored of hyip, mlm ponzi and other scams try this serious opportunity
Dear Dave Darrell!
Can you tell me the exact adress of the Iron & Steel factory, Chocolate factory, or the other investments? I have a few friends in Ukraine and they can watch the projects.
Anyway why Uinvest pay 120-180% yearly interest to the investors, instead the 10% Euro credit?
Thank you very much for answer!
Dont have to answer, its 100% SCAM!!!
Check this out: http://www.money-monitor.com/article/view/slug/uinvest-review—scam-warning-or-a-mistake-uinvestcomua#.UD09-sXdHDd
Dock or what do u call urself, “Uinvest standout” d link u gave out don’t u go through it before? Even the author of that said article(Ivaho) find time to praised Uinvest after reading through their response. I did not say they can’t scam down either but among Hyips Uinvest is different” up to 4yrs online now infact I can say it boldly with confidence Uinvest is Not Hyip but real Investment’ take it or leave it
Is this real email from Frank ?
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Good day !
So in the end, I’m now with 5070$ running at Uinvest. If you want to be part of
our group of investors, you can use this link to register an account :
https://uinvest.com.ua/?amigosid=21
Well, I re-invested 2000$ yesterday by buying a SoyFood share. I think it’s hard
to believe that in just one day, all the shares have sold-out and that they are
now trading at 2185$. I don’t want to sell but really, I was surprised . Uinvest
is becoming such a popular platform. I hope everyone understand the risks
involved !
Keep in touch and thanks for sharing your experience with others ! You’re the
reason why our community is so precious.
Next article will be on Making Money Online. I want to post a positive article
after all those scams and negative talks.
Cordially,
Frank
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Account will be frozen for entering Uinvest in HYIP, spiacele situation, fortunate that the account was 0.
I just want to briefly say what your problem with uinvest?
each company has their rules and uinvest not think the pattern you should follow.
This problem is not a scam, HYIP or what you Think, but this confidence problem!
uinvest is a real business !!!
There is no such thing as 15% ROI/month. Uinvest is NOT a legal company. Okay, it is registered, but Zeek was registered too. Uinvest hides everything. No financial statements, no business chats, nothing. You have to just ‘trust them’. That is not enough. It is another JPB/BB. Running for a few years and then scam. At least that is my opinion. If you do not believe me, ask just a few deep questions from the admins, they will not answer or will tell you the same “we are a legal and registered company” line.
Dear Members, admin of this blog,
germanpolice the real one wants to say hello to you all. As satisfied member for nearly 2 years. i can say i am proud that we have UInvest
.
greetings on the blog admin